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Katie: Howdy and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from WellnessMama.com. And this episode is all a few useful drugs tackle intestine well being, thyroid well being, and decreasing autoimmunity with Dr. Amy Myers. And we go in quite a lot of instructions on this podcast. She is a two-time bestselling creator and internationally acclaimed medical and useful drugs doctor who makes a speciality of empowering these with autoimmune, thyroid and digestive points to take again their well being and reverse their situation. And she or he additionally did two and a half years with the Peace Corps in Paraguay.
And she or he set off on a journey that may lead her to later launch her now well-known useful drugs clinic and her academic content material and line of packages that you could find on-line. And we go deep about quite a lot of her specialty on this, together with her personal drastic story with typical drugs and why she feels it failed her and the way she’s vowed to assist it not fail folks sooner or later. We discuss concerning the widespread triggers and causes within the rise of power illness, why she defines autoimmunity as a spectrum and the commonalities amongst them, the best way to know the place you’re on the spectrum. She talks concerning the 5 components that may contribute, that are toxins, infections, intestine points, weight loss program and stress, why three quarters of the triggers and causes are usually not genetic and are inside our management to alter.
We discuss concerning the energy of the thoughts and the way a lot our inside voice pertains to well being, and she or he shares in all probability essentially the most profound instance of this I’ve heard. She talks about her 4 pillars of useful well being, the best way to handle and take away toxins within the physique, how our intestine cells flip over each 24-48 hours to allow them to really restore in a short time, why we want a variety of meals for intestine variety, together with issues like greens, spices, and herbs, and when to keep away from fermented meals, the best way to know which plant meals are finest in your particular genes and ancestral wants, how seasonal consuming will help with intestine well being, and the best way to apply the 80/20 precept to optimum residing. So let’s soar in with Dr. Amy Myers. Dr. Amy, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here.
Dr Amy Myers: Thanks for having me, Katie. I’m tremendous excited.
Katie: Me too, I really feel like this dialog is lengthy overdue and I’m extraordinarily excited to be taught from you as we speak. I believe to start out off broad, some background on you may really be essentially the most useful start line for this dialog since you’ve stated that typical drugs failed you and also you’re on a mission to maintain it from failing different folks. And I believe your story illustrates a very profound purpose why you do the work that you simply do. So let’s begin there. How did you get into this, what’s now your entire world and this work that you simply do?
Dr Amy Myers: Yeah, properly, it’s a really lengthy story, however to make it brief, I grew up with dad and mom that had been very holistic. My father was a professor of Asian research. My mom taught yoga and jogged again within the 70s. And so if we had been ever sick, which was very not often, he took Chinese language herbs. My mom was very acquainted with the microbiome, made do-it-yourself yogurt once we had been little, do-it-yourself entire wheat bread. So I kind of grew up with this. My mom taught yoga, meditation, despatched me to Transcendental Meditation once I was in highschool. So I kind of grew up in a, I wouldn’t classify them as hippies, however simply kind of, , that type of world.
And I went to varsity, thought I used to be gonna be a psychologist on the finish, determined that I wasn’t gonna try this and have become a banker of all issues. After which learn a e-book known as, The Highway Much less Traveled, it actually resonated with me about kind of going on the market and never doing what everyone else is doing. And for no matter purpose, I all the time had a ardour to offer and to assist. And so I joined the Peace Corps really once I was 25. And on my method all the way down to the Peace Corps, I learn a e-book by Andrew Weil, Spontaneous Therapeutic, and it obtained me reinvigorated when it comes to pure therapeutic, herbs, issues like that. Taught myself yoga down within the Peace Corps.
Lengthy story brief, got here again and determined I needed to be a health care provider. I really moved out to Seattle to go to probably naturopathic medical faculty. And after working with some medical doctors there, realized that even in Seattle, the traditional medical doctors and the naturopathic medical doctors had been getting paid in a different way and simply considered in a different way. And I believed, properly, that is type of odd as a result of I’m out within the place the place they’ve this faculty they usually’re presupposed to be actually revered. And so anyway, I made the choice to go to allopathic medical faculty, however with the concept I’d find yourself doing one thing holistic, pure on the finish of all of it. So I took all my electives of an integrative drugs. I began a complimentary and different curiosity group. We even began a program on the college. I went to LSU in New Orleans.
And my second 12 months of medical faculty, I began getting panic assaults. I used to be dropping pounds quickly whereas consuming, , Ezekiel bread and vegan butter at night time, to not get up, two kilos thinner. And eventually had this tremor that despatched me to the physician and she or he brushed me off and stated, oh, that is medical faculty stress. Your second 12 months, you’re studying all these illnesses and also you simply assume you may have all of them. And I stated, wait a minute. I imply, I actually lived in the course of nowhere earlier than cell telephones or something within the Peace Corps. My mom had died unexpectedly of pancreatic most cancers in 4 months proper after I obtained again from the Peace Corps. It’s like, I don’t deal with stress like this. This isn’t stress, one thing’s fallacious with me.
So I demanded a workup and she or he known as me again a few weeks later and I don’t assume she actually apologized and she or he stated, oh, you may have Graves’ illness, which is an autoimmune dysfunction of your thyroid. And that was what was the reason for all of my signs, the insomnia, the load loss, all the tremor, every little thing. And so I used to be given three horrible decisions. One was to have my thyroid blown up like Hiroshima. The opposite was to take actually poisonous remedy. And the opposite one was to have my thyroid minimize out.
So I went again to my roots and I did Chinese language drugs for a few months and I didn’t actually see a distinction in that. In the meantime, I used to be consuming plenty of gluten and vegan cheeses. I used to be a vegetarian and on and off vegan for 27 years. After which finally I succumbed and I stated, all proper, I’ll take the remedy. It appears to be the lesser of all of those evils. Inside a few weeks, I used to be feeling horrible. My pores and skin was dry, my hair was falling out, I used to be fatigued. Went again to the physician and I used to be informed that I used to be one in 1,000,000 and I had poisonous hepatitis from the medication. So I rapidly needed to get off of that. I almost needed to drop out of medical faculty as a result of I needed to go get in mattress and my liver was destroying itself from this remedy, and principally had to determine was I then gonna have my thyroid blown up or have it ripped out surgically.
I reached out to Andrew Weil, I regarded in all of the analysis, I might discover nothing that gave me another or pure method to this. So I made the toughest resolution of my life and I had my thyroid radioactively ablated.
And after that, I used to be nonetheless in medical faculty. I graduated, I grew to become an ER doctor at Shock Trauma in Maryland, after which finally an ER doctor right here in Austin, Texas. And… In the future I simply stated, I’ve obtained to get again to my roots. I imply, although they, typical drugs, handled my graves by blowing up my thyroid, and now I don’t have a thyroid, there’s gotta be one thing higher. I’ve gotta get again to. I went to medical faculty within the first place.
So I went to a convention about useful drugs, which is basically attending to the basis of why you may have sure situations, notably autoimmunity and determining the best way to appropriate imbalances at that route and finally hopefully reversing or therapeutic, no matter’s occurring with you. So that basically resonated with me and why I needed to go to medical faculty to start with. And so I dove straight in and finally opened up a world famend useful drugs clinic.
I left the ER, wrote a number of books, that are behind me and, and, , went full pressure into useful drugs and now helped actually a whole lot of 1000’s of individuals world wide, however definitely 1000’s of individuals with Graves illness reverse their situation and never must do what I did. In order that’s why I say it’s my typical drugs failed me and is my mission to not have it fail you too. In order that was a little bit of an extended story, however that’s how I obtained to turning into a useful drugs doctor after which finally now proudly owning a well being and wellness firm. As , Amy Myers MD.
Katie: Oh, and there’s so many particular instructions I wish to go on this, as a result of I do know there are a lot of folks listening who’ve some type of auto-immunity or thyroid points. There are undoubtedly folks going by intestine points. And I additionally know that there are in all probability some widespread themes that run all through quite a lot of these issues. So I’d love to speak first about what you see as a number of the massive triggers or contributors to the rise throughout the board in quite a lot of these issues that we’re seeing definitely in America, however in different components of the world as properly.
Dr Amy Myers: So when it comes to all power situations and autoimmunity, so I write about in my first e-book, the autoimmune answer, I used to be the person who coined the phrase, the autoimmune spectrum. So by that’s, you may have somebody down right here with little to no irritation, and then you definitely’re working your method up larger on the spectrum with extra irritation all the way in which to full blown power autoimmunity.
Now there are in all probability only a few folks have completely no irritation as we all know, infants are being born with toxins and whatnot on the earth, however most of us sit someplace on this spectrum all the way in which as much as power illness or power autoimmunity. And there are 5 components that I write about in each of my books, and that’s toxins, infections, our intestine, leaky intestine, meals, since our weight loss program, and stress. And so I can stroll by every of those and the way they’ve actually all of those areas have exploded for many people. We all know that there are extra toxins on the earth than there’ve ever been, proper? We all know that now taking a look at research with wire blood that there are a lot of, many toxins already in utero when a child is born. So, and people toxins are growing day by day. And if you would like, we will get into why that’s.
We’re, , quite a lot of youngsters are already being, infants are being born with leaky guts. Extra youngsters are being born with C-sections. Extra mothers are getting antibiotics, , when in utero and getting these toxins, consuming a weight loss program that’s inflammatory. So infants are already being born with, , little intestine microbiome or a disturbed microbiome with C-sections and simply, , how we’re going by the world.
Our weight loss program, we, , processed meals. We had been simply at a giant water park yesterday and searching round, I imply, the variety of people who I noticed that had been simply in weight. And I imply, I’m not even speaking trying match was only a few. So we’re already, , we’re many, many individuals in our society now are simply consuming very inflammatory diets with these overly processed meals. As , the wheat has been modified. And so there’s extra gluten in our wheat. There’s roundup in our meals. And so we’re already having inflammatory meals. Leaky guys had been having extra toxins.
We’re residing in a wired world. We’ve got EMFs bombarding as we have now our cell telephones on always had been accessible. The stressors dealing with us each day of simply elevated as properly. After which infections increasingly more infections, proper? I imply, we noticed, , with the pandemic with Covid. I imply, we have now these Infections, whether or not they’re viruses, the Parasites, their micro organism, they’re turning into tremendous bugs, they’re turning into reactivated, they’re turning into, , they’re residing inside ourselves and presumably getting reactivated over time. How many individuals are you aware which have had COVID a number of instances? So what’s that doing to our immune techniques?
And definitely, I hope on this dialog, we’ll get into the options as a result of I’d by no means prefer to, inform folks massive, scary ideas and that, and simply to get them overwhelmed as a result of I’m actually a options oriented particular person.
However these are the issues that I see which can be actually contributing to autoimmunity and simply power irritation that’s resulting in, weight problems that’s resulting in… dysregulation of our metabolism that’s resulting in diabetes, , all of those very power and albeit preventable illnesses that we have now now.
Katie: Yeah, such as you, I believe it is a very multifaceted downside. And I like that you simply take a multifaceted method as a result of I’ve seen many individuals wanna give attention to simply a kind of areas. And definitely if it had been simply weight loss program, I take a look at the info and say like, our diets really haven’t modified sufficient to justify the rise in weight problems, even alone or diabetes. There’s clearly many components contributing, but in addition I do know, and I do know you converse to this rather a lot as properly. Such as you stated, there are a lot of options and there nonetheless is capability to reside optimally when you may have the information to try this.
I additionally really feel such as you had been forward of the development, you and your dad and mom with the meditation aspect, you talked about stress being a giant issue. And never that that’s by any means a cure-all, however I’d say the overwhelming majority of people that come on this podcast even talked about meditation as being a very helpful device. And we all know that like psychological well being and mindset additionally impacts our bodily physique and the analysis appears to simply improve on that. I’d guess many individuals can also resonate with even your story of getting to demand a workup out of your physician. I hear from so many mothers and girls who know one thing’s fallacious and are dismissed. I had the identical expertise being informed every little thing’s tremendous, your thyroid is regular and having to demand very particular checks to even get a solution.
After which from there to determine options largely by myself, as a result of I didn’t have a you shut by in my early phases that might assist me get there extra rapidly. So I really like that we now have a lot extra data and folks such as you who’re serving to folks get particular focused data. I’d like to go a little bit deeper past, I really like as an example, that you simply outline autoimmunity as a spectrum. I believe that’s a very useful device versus a easy sure or no, do or don’t type of reply.
However then inside that, there are such a lot of classes of autoimmunity. So are there widespread causes that may type of present up within the physique in a different way based mostly on genetics as an example, or do issues appear to line up with like particular triggers creating extra particular kinds of autoimmunity?
Dr Amy Myers: This can be a nice query. I imply, the analysis exhibits that, , actually solely 20% is genetic based mostly. I imply, again within the day, we thought as all of us, I’m certain you’ve talked many instances in your podcast about epigenetics. You had this gene, you bought this illness. We now know that these genes will be turned on and off, and these SNPs. And we all know that individuals, even with out the genes for Celiac, can really get Celiac. So it’s not all concerning the genes. Actually, about 75% of it’s these environmental components that I simply talked about. And in order that’s really essentially the most empowering a part of all of this, is that’s in your management.
And that’s actually what I speak about in all of my books is about, as an alternative of getting laden by all of this data, take into consideration that, two thirds or three fourths of it’s in your management and issues that you are able to do to alter, which is how we’re capable of reverse autoimmunity.
So again to the autoimmune, I imply, I might see three folks with, let’s simply say Hashimoto’s or Graves. And the rationale that these three folks have that very same illness might be for vastly totally different causes. One might actually simply have a gluten sensitivity and leaky intestine and we get them off gluten, heal their intestine and their antibodies are reversing for Hashimoto’s.
The opposite might be that they’re in a, very annoying relationship and a horrible job and stress is their greatest set off they usually even have a gluten sensitivity. After which the third particular person might have all 5 of them. I imply, I do know that all through my lifetime and issues have come and gone, I undoubtedly had all 5. And by the point I used to be seeing folks with seven, eight autoimmune situations, after all they often had all 5.
However in typical drugs, as we’re taught to listen to a illness, title the illness, give a drug, we’re not even thought to ask about what’s occurring or search for the deeper root trigger. However even when we had been, I’m certain they’d be saying, oh, properly, it’s Hashimoto’s and these are your solely causes. And it’s merely not true. I imply, I noticed it day in and time out in my clinic of simply, how individuals are coming.
Now, I’d say based mostly on the literature and the analysis of Alessio Fasano, given gluten and autoimmunity and the speculation behind molecular mimicry, and in case your listeners don’t know what that’s, I’m comfortable to enter it, I do advocate that everyone who’s on the spectrum has antibodies or has really been recognized with autoimmunity get off of gluten due to these cross-reactivity on this molecular mimicry. It’s so very sturdy, notably with thyroid situations or autoimmune thyroid situations. In order that’s why I did point out gluten in every of these examples as a result of the correlation is so excessive that I do advocate everyone who has autoimmunity be off of gluten.
Katie: That is sensible. And definitely like my dad and mom, as an example, have observed that change themselves as they’ve gotten older they usually benefited from going off gluten. Although I do hear from lots of people that discover in sure different locations on the earth, they really appear to do exactly tremendous with sure meals that they can’t eat within the U.S. And I’m curious if you happen to’ve had expertise with that and if any of the the reason why is the meals provide that totally different elsewhere in comparison with the U.S.?
Dr Amy Myers: Yeah, so I too have heard that and I’ve traveled to Europe however due to my historical past and what I do know, I don’t tempt destiny and I don’t eat gluten once I’m in another country. I definitely heard that point and time once more from sufferers in my clinic that they did that. However I additionally had a lady who was recognized with polymyositis and she or he was doing very properly. After which she went to Europe and she or he ate a bunch of gluten and didn’t really feel prefer it affected her however then she got here again and had a really massive flare. So if you’re recognized with full-blown autoimmunity, I nonetheless wouldn’t advocate that you simply try this. Nevertheless, the speculation behind that is that they’ve a lot, let’s simply take Europe for instance, a lot stricter legal guidelines about utilizing Roundup, about genetically modifying their meals. They’re utilizing historic grains. They’re not utilizing the identical stage of pesticides. Normally, they’re consuming a more healthy weight loss program however apparently the wheat is extra of our historic wheat.
And simply to remind your listeners, so what occurred with our wheat is we didn’t modify it. We hybridized it. And once we hybridized it, it meant that this might be develop heartier, it might develop greater nevertheless it additionally had extra gluten in our wheat. And in order that’s actually a part of the issue is, and then you definitely add Roundup on high of it, which is meant to, , improve the permeability of your mind, your intestine, all the toxins with Roundup disrupt your microbiome, then we actually have this downside, proper? I imply, it’s not, it’s that our wheat has extra gluten in it, it’s that it’s stuffed with Roundup, it’s that we’re residing with leaky guts, most of us, after which we’re consuming a lot extra gluten.
So it’s in every little thing, not simply bread. It’s from our shampoos to the a lot of the sushi that has crab meat in it isn’t actual crab meat, it’s really a glutinous, , it’s really all gluten to create this mock crab meat, for instance. So we’re simply getting uncovered on so many alternative ranges and in such a extra intense method than our dad and mom or definitely our grandparents or nice grandparents.
Katie: And I’d like to now begin going by out of your ethos, the answer targeted kind of information and contact factors of a few of these totally different situations. As a result of like I stated, I do know many individuals listening have or are experiencing a few of them.
And I’d say going in a single unrelated tip that I all the time give at first of this dialog is I discovered to shift my, even my speech and the way I discuss to myself from as an alternative of claiming, “I’ve Hashimoto’s”, I’d say “I’m therapeutic from Hashimoto’s” simply because I really feel just like the mindset is a big piece as properly. However on that observe, I really feel prefer it’s actually useful to have the instruments to know the way we’re going to heal from these varied issues.
And also you’ve talked about intestine well being as a foundational factor to quite a lot of totally different situations. So I’d love to start out there and listen to out of your perspective, what are a number of the key issues that individuals want to pay attention to and keep away from relating to intestine well being? And what are a number of the key kind of universally helpful issues we will do to enhance our intestine well being?
Dr Amy Myers: Yeah, if I’ll digress to 1 story that hints to your speaks to your talking to your self and it’s a very highly effective story of a lady in my clinic who had vitiligo and she or he had. She had moved right here from Africa and she or he labored and she or he had been beneath a really abusive excessive state of affairs and was capable of come into the nation due to that. After which she felt her want to offer again to the folks of her nation that had been additionally my immigrating into, into the US was to be an interpreter.
And what I discovered from talking together with her was that she needed to, as an interpreter in a court docket of regulation, you must say, I this and I that not they, you must be the particular person to interpret. And so what I noticed after going by many visits with this girl and never making quite a lot of progress is that I believed that she was taking up every of these folks’s tales by saying, I, I this, I that. So she was reliving, although it was their trauma, she was reliving it as if it was her personal trauma. And I recommended that she wanted to surrender her profession or her job. She didn’t take that flippantly, however anyway, about six months later, she known as again or emailed me again and stated that she lastly did and her vitiligo was beginning to resolve. So it’s simply talking to what you had been saying and the ability of the thoughts of setting your self up for these, setting your physique, getting ready your physique in any respect ranges, getting ready yourselves for therapeutic. And that journey will be very totally different for everybody.
So again to the intestine. Properly, let me say that I’ve 4 pillars within the Myers method, which is this system that I got here up with after working with tens of 1000’s of sufferers. And the primary one is to do away with gluten, grains and legumes. And I discussed the molecular mimicry with gluten grains. I do know legumes, you’ve in all probability talked about this extensively, can have anti-nutrient properties. They’ll have lectins in them, issues that may irritate the intestine. I used to be a vegetarian for 27 years. I imply, I had quite a lot of intestine dysbiosis occurring.
After which there are infections equivalent to Candida, SIBO which can be consumed carbs, even when they’re wholesome carbs as beans and rice and issues like that. So I do advocate that individuals give these items up, gluten indefinitely, however the grains and legumes, not less than for days or longer until they begin, heal your intestine after which we will dive into you particularly. There’s a 4 hour program with therapeutic your intestine and we’ll dive into that and the specifics that I take advantage of.
Then we wish to tame the toxins and that’s actually about, look we reside in a poisonous world. So I like to recommend if you’ll be able to, to create an setting at residence, at your workplace, wherever you’re spending most time, that filters these. How will we get toxins? Properly, we breathe them in, we get them in by our pores and skin and we ingest them in. So having HEPA air filters in your house if you happen to can, having water filtration not simply at your faucet but in addition in your showers, utilizing all-natural toxin-free cleansing merchandise and sweetness merchandise after which ensuring you’re consuming natural. So did I get by pores and skin, breathe, yeah okay.
And then you definitely wish to work to get them out, that’s my two-step course of. So that you wish to, how do you get them out? You pee them out, you poop them out, you sweat them out. So that you wish to ensure you’re peeing and pooping each day, you wish to ensure you’re exercising or doing infrared sauna, one thing to sweat each day if you happen to can. After which I take advantage of two dietary supplements that after all we have now glutathione and coconut charcoal. So acetylated glutathione, it’s essential to make it possible for it’s acetylated. Some folks use liposomal, I examined all of them in my clinic. I want an acetylated glutathione for me personally and what I noticed discovered work finest. After which in order that pulls the toxins out after which one thing like coconut charcoal goes to bind it. So peeing, pooping, sweating each single day.
Then we wish to relieve our stress. I don’t say, , do away with your stress or, , as a result of we reside in a annoying world and you may’t simply say, okay, I’m not gonna be careworn. You’ve obtained to seek out methods to offer pause. So I’ve relieve stress and heal infections. And relieving stress is basically concerning the issues that we talked about. And look, I discovered meditation, , 30-something years in the past and I don’t all the time try this each day. So it’s discovering what works for you, proper? I imply, is {that a} stroll for me? I do quite a lot of swimming. It’s the one place, hyperbaric and swimming, it’s the one place no person can hassle me and get to me. So these are massive stress relievers for me, however it’s essential to discover what works for you, your downtime.
After which the infections are these power infections equivalent to Epstein-Barr, herpes, these latent infections that may reactivate a power Lyme and coping with these infections. And, , I can undergo some methods if you would like for these as properly.
In order that’s the 4 pillars. After which again to therapeutic your intestine, which is among the main components of one of many second pillar of the 4 pillar program. And there’s kind of the 4R method, which I’m certain you’ve had lots of people speaking about. However once more, the very first thing is to take away. And what are you eradicating? It’s again to those meals. You wanna take away gluten, you wanna dairy. Gluten and dairy are the 2 most inflammatory meals, however sugars, processed meals, meals dyes, GMOs, I imply, you wish to get these items out of your weight loss program.
And most significantly, you wanna take away any infections which can be in your intestine. And that is totally different than these power infections. That is SIBO, Candida, Parasites. And definitely in case you have auto-immunity, very uncommon, I noticed anybody that didn’t have one or each of these. And so they’ve now grow to be, if you happen to’re on social media, everyone’s speaking about SIBO and Candida. I imply, again once I was, , you talked about I used to be one of many originals. I imply, I used to be, I imply, again once I was speaking about these items 10-15 years in the past, there weren’t many individuals speaking about this. And I noticed it extensively in my clinic, eliminating SIBO, eliminating Candida. We will additionally stroll by how, , I’m comfortable to share precisely how to try this.
And then you definitely wish to substitute something that’s lacking. So are you low in abdomen acid? Lots of people are, , they’ve been taking acid blockers. You want that acid to kill off Parasites. You want that acid to kill off SIBO, to kill off Candida. You want that acid, after all, to interrupt down your proteins and the remainder of your meals. Do you want digestive enzymes? Lots of people are low of their digestive enzymes as a result of they’ve been consuming horrible power diets, or they’ve been on power PPIs, or different medicines which have, , prevented their precise, , their pancreas and their gallbladder from really working. So I changed these issues. Typically that’s briefly, typically that’s, , very long-term, however quite a lot of instances as folks start to heal, they’ll get off of those dietary supplements. However in my expertise, it’s, it’s, , it may be, , intensive on the, , complement and dietary life-style change at first. After which, , as you progress down the spectrum, you possibly can see the place you possibly can unencumber.
You wish to… you wish to re-inoculate with a very good top quality, excessive dose probiotic. Now, if you happen to’re coping with Candida, I like to recommend we have now 100 billion unit probiotic. Should you’re coping with SIBO although, I like to recommend a soil-based probiotic as a result of SIBO is Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth and that may typically be an overgrowth of lactobacillus. And most traditional probiotics or top quality, no matter, have lactobacillus in them and ours do as a result of it’s the primary micro organism in our intestine. And in order that’s the place I differ on these two.
After which we really wish to, take away, reinoculate, properly, I assume restore. And I’m doing that typically. Your intestine cells flip over each 24-48 hours. So that they’re gonna restore typically on their very own. However I usually advocate that individuals do one thing to assist this course of jumpstart this course of. And we have now a product known as Leaky Intestine Revive. It’s really one in all our primary merchandise. And it’s 3000 milligrams of L-glutamine, which is the amino acid that helps your cells rejuvenate, but in addition what we have now within the product is quite a lot of various things that enable you to supply mucus. So if you consider your intestine, what’s it? I imply, it’s a mucus membrane. And lots of people are lacking that mucus or have the mucus stage has been disturbed. So it’s slippery elm, marshmallow root, Deglycyrrhizinated licorice to assist your physique create extra mucus in all the GI tract.
And so these are the 4 issues that I do to assist restore your intestine well being. And infrequently the following query is, do I’ve to do these items endlessly? , it actually depends upon the place you’re trying and the place you’re on that spectrum. And, , I take Leaky Intestine Revive, many, many days of the week. We reside in a poisonous world and I simply, , to maintain myself in addition to a probiotic and digestive enzyme, so.
Katie: Yeah. So I took so many notes on that. I really like additionally that you simply speak about that simplification course of that always it’s the taking away of the publicity and it’s not typically that we have now to essentially achieve this many sophisticated issues as soon as we perceive the issue.
And that I really like additionally that you simply discuss a lot concerning the physique kind of being designed to heal and that it regenerates and that it’s meant to maneuver towards therapeutic if we help it in doing that. And that story you informed about her inside discuss might be essentially the most profound instance I’ve heard of that. That’s unbelievable.
Additionally from a intestine well being perspective, I’d love your type of affirm or deny from a health care provider’s perspective. There’s additionally been on like Instagram and TikTok, quite a lot of circulating speak about how we want variety in what we do eat to assist type of tradition the proper steadiness of intestine micro organism. So that you talked about avoiding the triggers like gluten and dairy and legumes, but in addition it looks as if quite a lot of us are consuming type of only a very slim vary of plant meals and that we will profit from a wider vary of greens and crops and spices which have totally different advantages. Do you agree with that evaluation and issues like fermented meals being helpful as properly?
Dr Amy Myers: Yep, so the brief reply is sure, and I’ll get to fermented meals in a second, and if I get off on a tangent, please remind me. However so yeah, I imply, and likewise there’s even, relying on the place your ancestry’s from as to what microbiota is likely to be in several proportions inside your intestine, in your microbiome. So individuals who reside in Asia or descendants of Asia, Africa versus United States, are you principally European? There are ancestrally totally different microbiota, and so there are a lot of checks. I don’t know if you happen to’re related to one like microbiome or Viome or elsewhere, so in case you have one that you simply advocate. Look, they’re all, it’s fairly new analysis, so there’s quite a lot of debate about how correct these items are. They are often useful although, however not solely would you like variety inside your individual intestine, you wanna just remember to’re getting the range that’s meant in your ancestral historical past.
And in order that may be very sophisticated, and understanding that, and so utilizing a few of these checks, I believe that they are often good as a information. And sure, if we’re trying again to how we ate, our ancestors ate, they didn’t have the, as , stroll into the grocery retailer or Instacart and have somebody ship your contemporary berries to you all 12 months spherical. We ate a a lot wider number of a weight loss program and we stopped and began varied issues relying on once they had been in season. And that allowed for variety simply inherently since you ate what was accessible to you. So sure, I imply, look, all of us, even these of us on this world, proper, the place I consider I’m, definitely we’re busy, we’re creatures of habits, we all know what we like. It’s tremendous simple, you select meal plans and also you repeat them again and again. However sure, ideally we’d all be consuming much more variety.
Again to the fermented meals, I consider that I differ right here than many individuals. And this once more is predicated on my expertise as a clinician working with 1000’s of sufferers, which is since most individuals, not less than that I noticed with auto-immunity had been coming in with SIBO and Candida, I don’t advocate fermented meals proper off the bat. And this was a really, , paleo fx. I believe that’s the place you and I really met, , and I spoke there for a lot of, a few years, and I’d all the time have folks come as much as me afterwards and say, I began consuming all these fermented meals as a result of everyone right here is telling me to try this. And I obtained all this fuel and all this bloating and I really feel depressing.
Properly, fermented meals is supposed to, I like to consider your intestine type of like as a fish bowl. And it’s fish meals to feed all of the fish, that are the nice micro organism and micro organism, I imply, unhealthy micro organism. You have got good micro organism, unhealthy micro organism, a little bit little bit of yeast, perhaps some Parasites in your intestine. In a super world, it’s residing there harmoniously in an ideal steadiness. When these items get out of steadiness, if you happen to’re feeding in fish meals, then the Candida, the SIBO, they’re gonna eat this up as properly. So that’s the excellent instance. Should you begin to take a prebiotic, you’re taking fermented meals and also you’re studying someplace and you’re taking that and also you get bloated, you may have fuel, you don’t really feel properly, it might be that you simply took an excessive amount of, however typically, and it’s essential to begin off slowly, typically that to me tells me that you’ve got Candida or SIBO or each as a result of it’s feeding these infections.
So my advice for my sufferers and what I like to recommend in all of my articles is to carry off on the fermented meals and the prebiotics and all that stuff, do away with these infections. When you’ve gotten rid of those infections, you’ve gotten your microbiome cleaned out to principally all the good things, then begin including within the fish meals, begin including within the prebiotics, begin including within the fermented meals and assist to flourish and reestablish and preserve that microbiome in steadiness.
Katie: And I do know that it looks as if SIBO and Candida are recurring themes. I’m assuming you see these a complete lot in your clinic. Some other ideas particular to these and or simply signs that individuals may… to concentrate to, that may be a sign that that may be a very good factor to see in case you have.
Dr Amy Myers: Yeah, okay. So sure, after writing a thyroid e-book and an autoimmune e-book, the primary factor that individuals come to us for is SIBO and Candida. So I’d love to speak about these.
So first, Candida is Candida overgrowth. All of us have a little bit little bit of Candida, however that is when it will get overgrown. So what are some set off phrases for me? Mind fog. That if I hear mind fog, primary factor that I’m considering, in addition to perhaps gluten sensitivity, is Candida, unexplained rashes, itchy rashes, stuff you’ve gone to the dermatologist, they don’t know once they’re like put a cream on it. That always is candida. Psoriasis, eczema often has a candida underline. After all, in case you have recurrent yeast infections, you may have recurrent dandruff, issues like that, that’s yeast. So, after which, so fuel, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, you possibly can have any of those, however typically it’s these pores and skin points and the mind fog is the primary factor I consider.
How do I cope with candida? You go on a low carb weight loss program, a candida authorised weight loss program, and also you’re not, for my part, consuming these fermented meals. You’re undoubtedly eliminating sugars and carbs. After which what I take advantage of for my sufferers, we have now a candida equipment and program, so I created two dietary supplements. One, Candefense, and the opposite is Caprylic Acid. Caprylic Acid comes from coconut. It’s the acid within the coconut, so it type of pokes these holes within the E-cell wall. After which the candefense is enzymes that digest the cell wall. And then you definitely re-inoculate with actually good high quality excessive probiotics. We’ve got 100 billion unit probiotic. In order that’s my Candida.
SIBO is Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth. And the triggers that I hear there are bloating is basically the largest one. I wakened, my abdomen was flat. I ate one meal. I regarded six months pregnant. Rosacea is a giant one for that one. After which the opposite is most individuals consider SIBO as having diarrhea, nevertheless it really could cause constipation in lots of people.
And there may be additionally a SIBO Hashimoto’s connection, as a result of in case you have low thyroid, then your digestion slows down, the meals is left in your intestine longer, after which the micro organism there go in to digest they usually’re simply creating these totally different gasses. After which it’s additionally a 3 step program. The weight loss program is similar to the Candida one. Actually, you possibly can principally use the identical and we regularly have individuals who come to us they usually’re treating each on the similar time and I’ll be comfortable to handle how to try this as a result of it’s barely totally different whenever you’re attempting to do each.
So weight loss program, you wanna starve the yeast, I imply, starve the SIBO. Then you definitely wanna prune again the SIBO with microbe. We use a herb microbe clear. Now, if you’re seeing a doctor as a result of this has grow to be extra widely known and there may be an antibiotic, Zifaxin, which I’ve taken a number of instances. I’ve given it to my sufferers. It’s one of many few antibiotics I prescribe, very particular to the intestine. It does typically work very properly. Nevertheless, it’s very costly and most insurance coverage doesn’t cowl it. In order that’s why I created the micro clear as a result of I had all these folks in my clinic that might not afford to pay 1000’s of {dollars} for this antibiotic. I imply, some had been so determined. They did, however the herbs work rather well. It’s, , berberine, wormwood, black walnut, a bunch of, herbs that simply kind of pr wish to kill all of your good micro organism. An excessive amount of of a very good factor created a nasty state of affairs, to kill again a number of the you wish to re inoculate you re-inoculate as I acknowledged. So if you happen to wanna deal with each on the similar time, what I like to recommend is it’s primarily the identical weight loss program. After which you possibly can take the MicroClear, the Caprylic Acid and the Candefenol all at one time. You possibly can work your method up and we clarify how to try this. After which what you wanna do first is to take the soil-based probiotic and ensure you’ve gotten rid of the SIBO first. And upon getting, you’ll then take the billion unit probiotic after that. So it could be like a 30 days as an alternative of and are kind of 30 days, you’re doing 60 days of all of this.
Katie: That is sensible.
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And I’m glad that you simply introduced up enzymes as properly, as a result of that was on my listing to ask you about. It looks as if it’s not even simply what we eat essentially, but in addition how a lot we will digest and take up of what we eat. And it looks as if I’m seeing extra in analysis and from folks I do know such as you, speaking concerning the significance of enzymes, which might actually be useful as we become older, or if we have now particular situations particularly. I see that in minerals as recurring themes proper now. It looks as if many individuals have struggles in each of these areas. Do you discover these are widespread in your sufferers as properly?
Dr Amy Myers: Completely. So simply to be clear, the enzymes I used to be referring to within the within the candefense are enzymes that break down the yeast cell wall. However I sure, our digestive enzymes are one in all our high sellers as a result of so many individuals do have these points of getting been on power medicines and whatnot. And I all the time stated in my clinic, it isn’t the saying the previous saying that you simply all the time heard you’re what you eat. It’s really you’re what you digest and take up. So there have been loads of folks once more, as a result of they learn the books earlier than they got here or they met me at paleofx they usually had been already coming in consuming these actually good diets. However then I’d do lab testing on them to have a look at their minerals, to have a look at their vitamin ranges, to look intracellularly at what was occurring. And so they weren’t getting the good thing about this. So that you will be consuming the very best weight loss program on the earth. However if you happen to then can now not digest and take up it, in case you have low abdomen acid and also you’re not breaking down the proteins into amino acids, then you definitely’re not absorbing it. Should you don’t have what it’s essential to break down carbs and fat, you will not be absorbing it.
Or, , in case you have that after which it will get all the way in which all the way down to your small gut and then you definitely’ve obtained SIBO disrupting it, or you may have leaky intestine and then you definitely’re not absorbing these. So I imply, the intestine, I all the time say is the muse and the gateway to your well being. I imply, in case your intestine shouldn’t be functionally on all ranges at an optimum stage, you’re both have already got issues otherwise you’re going to have issues. And that’s the reason as a result of I converse a lot about this, regardless that I’ve written these different books, I believe folks come to me for intestine as a result of I simply noticed it time and time once more, and individuals who had no digestive points. I imply, individuals who got here in and stated, oh, no, no, I’m consuming this nice weight loss program. , I’ve two bowel actions a day. I don’t have any fuel. I don’t have any bloating. I’m tremendous.
After which we do a complete stool check. We’d see their digestive enzymes are low. We’d see they’ve vegetable fibers of their stool. We see, , we see their amino acids are low. And I might see it in all of those useful labs, not typical labs, however useful labs of how, , they thought that their intestine was tremendous. And so they had been consuming this unbelievable weight loss program, however with out having their pure inherent capability to interrupt down and digest and take up issues, take up their vitamins, they had been then poor in these.
And, , when it comes to mineral deficiency, I believe that that’s in all probability twofold. One, our meals may be very totally different than it was for our ancestors. There are a lot of, many research that I do know you’re conscious of, of. , our soil shouldn’t be as nutrient dense because it was once earlier than. So then the crops arising out of the soil shouldn’t have the identical stage of vitamins they used to have. After which once more, we’re residing on this poisonous world, our guts are leaky. In order that’s resulting in mineral and vitamin deficiencies. And it’s frankly why I like to recommend everyone take a multivitamin day by day. I imply, I’ve an article on this about all the explanations everyone must be taking a multivitamin due to what we’re simply discussing, the soil, the nutrient stage in our meals, our leaky guts, our lack of ability to digest and take up.
Katie: Yeah, I’m glad that you simply obtained to elucidate that so comprehensively, as a result of I’ve puzzled if that is really one other lacking piece due to the depletion of our meals provide and why we’ll see individuals who look like in actually good well being who can have these random situations that appear to return out of nowhere. And it looks as if not less than a few of them might be linked to mineral deficiencies that individuals wouldn’t essentially even pay attention to. So I’m so glad that we obtained to speak about that.
I’d additionally love to listen to any ideas that you’ll be able to simply kind of typically give to your sufferers or that you would be able to give listed below are kind of the 80/20 that transfer us towards optimum or that appear to be comparatively universally helpful. One I’ve given on right here again and again, as an example, is the significance of pure mild, which is free. I’ve observed a giant distinction even in my labs from getting morning daylight and a little bit little bit of mid day, noon daylight each day, which is sensible once we take into account that our our bodies have {an electrical} part and that we want mild for thus many issues to occur inside our physique.
However I’m certain that you’ve got a way more complete listing. So for anyone who’s attempting to maneuver that needle towards optimum, what can be a number of the issues on that listing for you?
Dr Amy Myers: So I assume once we had been speaking about toxins, I didn’t end my considered saying that, you stated 80-20 and my thoughts simply went to the 80-20 rule. So let me go to toxins after which I’ll speak about weight loss program.
Toxins, so we have now a house, and I perceive not everyone can have these items, however we have now a house air filtration system, water filtration system, all of these items that I talked about, we solely eat natural in our home. And that’s in order that once I exit into the world, I make the very best decisions that I can, however I acknowledge that I journey. I’ve a baby. We, , I used to be telling you, we had been at a water park yesterday. They stated no outdoors meals. We introduced outdoors meals. I imply, we simply defined we have now quite a lot of meals sensitivities, proper? So we’re not pressured to eat that meals, however then I’m in very chlorinated water, proper? I imply, I reside a life, but when in your individual setting, you possibly can management what you possibly can management, then you definitely exit into the world and also you do the very best that you would be able to. However there’s no method to keep away from these items. And so I undoubtedly observe that as a rule. Like, , be as strict as you possibly can in your individual residence after which go benefit from the world and do the very best you possibly can whenever you’re on the market.
Now, relating to weight loss program, there are specific elements that I don’t, relating to auto-immunity and the hyperlink with gluten after which the molecular mimicry and the cross-reactivity of gluten with casein, I don’t advocate anyone with auto-immunity eat dairy or gluten. And so for me, these are non-negotiables it doesn’t matter what. Should you had a gun to my head, I’d not eat gluten, or dairy, however so these are usually not negotiables. However once more, I do assume it goes again to what you had been saying. Should you’re consuming natural or in case you have the freedom or as you’ve moved your method down the autoimmune spectrum, it’s to not say I by no means eat sugar, it’s to not say I by no means eat corn, it’s to not say that I don’t ever eat grains or legumes. I’m in Texas, love some black beans and rice, however I do these items occasionally to the place that I do know once I’m ingesting my leaky intestine revive each day or, taking my enzymes once I exit, I can do these items, proper? I’m properly, however I’ve gotten hit with poisonous mildew 3 times in my life now. And I’ve moved up that autoimmune spectrum. After which I’ve obtained to get again to very clearly doing issues, um, in a really deliberate method and being far more cautious than once I’m properly and might, can return down, down the spectrum.
So I don’t know if that absolutely answered your query or if you would like me to consider another issues which can be free. I imply, stress reduction typically is free. My swimming is free that I do. Hyperbarics will not be, enjoying along with your baby, enjoying along with your pet, going outdoors in pure mild, sleep. I imply, the one folks say, how do you do every little thing that you simply do? Properly, it’s solely as a result of I do have a husband that if I must, if there’s one thing occurring with the canines or a daughter will get up in the course of the night time, I want my sleep. If I don’t get my sleep, I transfer up that spectrum on autoimmunity. So sleep is free. Possibly everyone doesn’t have the identical help that I’ve, however sleep is a wonderful free useful resource that enables your physique to heal and permits your physique to detox. And I be sure to the very best of my capability that I get a stable eight, if not ten hours of sleep is what I want to essentially be optimum in my life.
Katie: Yeah, the virtually 700 folks I’ve had on this podcast, I’m but to listen to a single particular person say sleep shouldn’t be vital. It looks as if the one universally agreed upon factor. And such as you stated, sleep itself is free. There’s heaps we will do to optimize sleep, which I are inclined to prioritize even in my funds as a result of we spend hopefully a lot time sleeping that I really feel like adjustments we make there have advantages and sleep makes all these different issues we’re speaking about a lot simpler as a result of your pure physique is ready to like rebuild and heal throughout sleep. So I really like that as a common tip, one which undoubtedly can’t be overstated. So I really like that you simply introduced that up.
And as we transfer towards the tip, just a few questions I like to ask. The primary being if there’s a e-book or a variety of books which have profoundly impacted you personally, and in that case, what they’re and why.
Dr Amy Myers: Properly, the one which I considered whenever you, I knew you had been gonna ask me this query was M. Scott Peck’s The Highway Much less Traveled. I believed I needed to be a scientific psychologist, however I learn that e-book, in highschool, I consider. And I believe the factor about it for me is my life has been the street much less traveled. I imply, as you talked about, I used to be actually one of many originals again in useful drugs, talking about all of these items. And you must be courageous to try this. I imply, to be frank, I wrote an article simply actually quoting the CDC about issues you possibly can do in lieu of a flu vaccine and obtained reported to the medical board. And it was proper earlier than my first e-book was popping out.
I do really feel between the Peace Corps, the Chinese language herbs, conventional typical medical faculty to then going to grow to be a useful drugs doctor that I’ve actually embodied that in my life and simply encourage folks to observe the street much less traveled. I imply, fortunately for folks like your self, you may have helped get the phrase out and broaden the message that useful drugs and different issues can be found to folks as an alternative of typical medication. So thanks very a lot for you following the street much less traveled and getting that out, however letting folks know that you simply don’t have to be afraid to journey this street much less traveled. And there will be nice profit on the finish of it that doesn’t contain plenty of medication and a poor high quality of life. It really entails perhaps merely giving up a pair meals, including in some daylight, therapeutic your intestine. And you’ll have an unbelievable life pain-free and drug-free.
Katie: I undoubtedly second that e-book advice. And in addition thanks to the work of you and so many others who’ve helped make this message rather more accessible to everybody on the market. I do know I hear from so many mothers who are actually shifting into the useful drugs method with their households, which is basically encouraging for me to see, as a result of I believe when the mothers begin making the shift, that’s when society actually begins to shift. And I do know you’re a mother as properly. So I’m actually grateful for the work that you simply’ve performed. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners as we speak that might be associated to every little thing we’ve talked about or fully unrelated life recommendation that you’ve got discovered useful.
Dr Amy Myers: That may be a massive query. However I believe the one factor that’s calling me at this second, and I don’t know if you happen to’ve performed a podcast on hyperbaric, and I’m definitely not a hyperbaric skilled, however I can simply converse to if you happen to’ve hit a plateau in your autoimmune journey, and also you’ve been working with a useful drugs doctor, and also you’ve adopted the issues that I’ve laid out as we speak, and also you’re not getting properly, look into hyperbaric, I’ve seen essentially the most profound, therapeutic from hyperbaric of a lady who was in, I had a plateau with, she was in a wheelchair and it simply known as me and I stated, go do 20 periods of hyperbarics and name me again. And she or he was strolling once more.
I actually obtained to a plateau in my journey at one level a number of years in the past, modified nothing, solely obtained into hyperbarics each day for nearly a 12 months. All of my autoimmune markers went damaging, they’ve remained damaging. I then obtained COVID, thought I used to be getting Lengthy Haul COVID, 5 periods into hyperbaric and it was fully gone. And definitely anyone coping with lengthy COVID, I’d extremely advocate hyperbaric.
So, that’s, , increasingly more locations are popping up that you would be able to go kind of like a sauna and pay for a person session. This isn’t a plug and you may delete this, however , I’ve an Oxy-Well being one they usually have a lease to personal, , state of affairs if you’re in dire want. And in order that, I don’t know, I used to be simply known as to say that as a result of I really feel prefer it’s one thing that lots of people aren’t speaking about now. And I’ve seen some extremely profound, simply life-changing occasions with hyperbaric if you happen to hit a plateau, or simply as a part of your journey of therapeutic, that’s actually unbelievable.
Katie: Superior. Properly, I do know you’ve talked about a number of of your books and merchandise as we speak. I’ll make it possible for hyperlinks to all of these are within the present notes for you guys. Should you’re listening on the go, that’s all at wellnessmama.fm. I do know you even have a ton of academic sources accessible in your web site, so I’ll ensure you guys can discover these as properly. Or after all you possibly can Google her title and it’ll all come up. Thanks a lot for spending time as we speak, for attending to go deep on so many of those matters and for the work that you simply’ve performed for now a long time, serving to 1000’s and 1000’s of individuals.
Dr Amy Myers: Properly, thanks a lot for having me and serving to me to get the phrase out. And I actually recognize every little thing that you simply do.
Katie: Thanks as all the time to all of you for listening and sharing your most precious sources, your time, your vitality, and your consideration with us as we speak. We’re each so grateful that you simply did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the following episode of The Wellness Mama Podcast.
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